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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 22:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny, I&#039;m not sure I understand who you&#039;re referring to. The government for misinterpreting and misconstruing laws and regulations that limit meteorite hunting, or us for trying to form an association that will promote meteorite hunting in a positive light and HELP meteorite hunters. Which one is it? Are you calling us idiots, or the government?

Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny, I&#8217;m not sure I understand who you&#8217;re referring to. The government for misinterpreting and misconstruing laws and regulations that limit meteorite hunting, or us for trying to form an association that will promote meteorite hunting in a positive light and HELP meteorite hunters. Which one is it? Are you calling us idiots, or the government?</p>
<p>Eric</p>
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		<title>By: DANNY</title>
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		<dc:creator>DANNY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 02:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NO NO NO THIS IS A BAD IDEA REGULITING METORITE HUNTING LIKE REGULATING ANYTHING ELSE. FOLLOW THE MONWY WHO STANDS TOO MAKE THE MOST MONEY IN THIS DEAL? CERTENLY NOT POOR SMUGK WHO EKES OUT A LINING SELLING THEM ...ME I AM GOING TO WRIGHT MY CONGRESSMAN RIGHT NOW TO STOP YOU IDIOTS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO NO NO THIS IS A BAD IDEA REGULITING METORITE HUNTING LIKE REGULATING ANYTHING ELSE. FOLLOW THE MONWY WHO STANDS TOO MAKE THE MOST MONEY IN THIS DEAL? CERTENLY NOT POOR SMUGK WHO EKES OUT A LINING SELLING THEM &#8230;ME I AM GOING TO WRIGHT MY CONGRESSMAN RIGHT NOW TO STOP YOU IDIOTS</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.meteoritesusa.com/meteorite-articles/meteorite-hunting-association/comment-page-1/#comment-374</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 07:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I answered this already please see above: &quot;...I think you misunderstand what I mean when I suggested modeling it after the IMCA. The model will be used very “loosely” and NOT play a large role in the formation of the MHA. I also mentioned the GPAA, the LDMA and “other” metal detecting organizations. The MHA will be a kind of hybrid of all the best qualities of the best groups with the benefit of including a mission that is about supporting, protecting and preserving the rights of the public to hunt meteorites. You asked if I model the MHA after these groups then why is the MHA needed? Simple. Because the other groups have NOTHING to do with meteorite hunting and recovery. There is no group out there that is dedicated to meteorite hunting, the recovery of meteorites in the field, and the preservation of both the rights of hunters, and the scientific data. That’s what the Meteorite Hunting Association is.

To answer your question about why go through all the trouble? No one else is doing it and it’s something I feel, and other hunters feel, that needs to be done. If the MHA does not support meteorite hunters then who will? It’s for the hunters by the hunters, and a group that is to help grow the meteorite hunting and collecting world....&quot;

Again, I&#039;d like to say, I was only using the IMCA as part of the example, just as I did the GPAA and other groups, and as I&#039;ve stated it&#039;s NOT about meteorite collecting, it&#039;s about meteorite hunting. Read my statement again about the IMCA.

The MHA is not going to be an invitation only &quot;club&quot;, but will probably have a probationary period for new members within the bylaws that will provide some protection for the MHA and still allow a certain openness within the MHA membership base.

It&#039;s very simple: The &quot;tentative&quot; Meteorite Hunting Association - Basic Mission: To provide, protect, and preserve meteorite data and material for education and advancement of meteorite science.

The MHA will be a non-profit organization to educate the public about meteorites, preserve meteorite data and hunters rights, and to further the science of meteoritics in a &quot;cooperative&quot; way.

Regards,
Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I answered this already please see above: &#8220;&#8230;I think you misunderstand what I mean when I suggested modeling it after the IMCA. The model will be used very “loosely” and NOT play a large role in the formation of the MHA. I also mentioned the GPAA, the LDMA and “other” metal detecting organizations. The MHA will be a kind of hybrid of all the best qualities of the best groups with the benefit of including a mission that is about supporting, protecting and preserving the rights of the public to hunt meteorites. You asked if I model the MHA after these groups then why is the MHA needed? Simple. Because the other groups have NOTHING to do with meteorite hunting and recovery. There is no group out there that is dedicated to meteorite hunting, the recovery of meteorites in the field, and the preservation of both the rights of hunters, and the scientific data. That’s what the Meteorite Hunting Association is.</p>
<p>To answer your question about why go through all the trouble? No one else is doing it and it’s something I feel, and other hunters feel, that needs to be done. If the MHA does not support meteorite hunters then who will? It’s for the hunters by the hunters, and a group that is to help grow the meteorite hunting and collecting world&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;d like to say, I was only using the IMCA as part of the example, just as I did the GPAA and other groups, and as I&#8217;ve stated it&#8217;s NOT about meteorite collecting, it&#8217;s about meteorite hunting. Read my statement again about the IMCA.</p>
<p>The MHA is not going to be an invitation only &#8220;club&#8221;, but will probably have a probationary period for new members within the bylaws that will provide some protection for the MHA and still allow a certain openness within the MHA membership base.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very simple: The &#8220;tentative&#8221; Meteorite Hunting Association &#8211; Basic Mission: To provide, protect, and preserve meteorite data and material for education and advancement of meteorite science.</p>
<p>The MHA will be a non-profit organization to educate the public about meteorites, preserve meteorite data and hunters rights, and to further the science of meteoritics in a &#8220;cooperative&#8221; way.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Eric</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 04:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point very well taken on the IMCA and yes the members of the IMCA have paid their dues. The interesting thing is that in your original statement you point out that there needs to be an organization (MHA) that promotes that ethical collection of meteorites and specimens so the scientific community will respect the members of the MHA so that they don’t lobby against the private collection of meteorites.

You state and I quote that “It’s to help build and create a group that can help preserve the rights of meteorite hunters (the public) to hunt federal land while at the same time help newbies learn how to recover meteorites and preserve their data. Without an organized group to do that people will see the Meteorite Men show, or read about it online and go out hunting and either get in trouble, or destroy vital data.”  

This is a noble cause and something that I thought I would like to be a part of but where if not in the MHA is a Newbie Nobody from Nowhere like myself to learn and that is my point. If you model yourself after these noble invitation only organizations then why do you need to start a new group just stay with these groups that work. Why don’t you just make the changes to these organizations that you have motioned in your comments above.

I thought your interest in starting a new organization was to promote the ethical private collection of meteorites and use it as more or less a teaching tool, because of the overwhelming new interest from the general public form the viewing of such shows as The Meteorite Men. Correct me if I’m wrong, I thought your interest was to educate this new bread of hunter on how to preserve data so that it would not be lost, provide them with the tools so to speak even go so far as to provide newbies like myself with a starter kit (shirt, jewelers loupe and rare earth magnets). 

My question is why go to this much trouble if you are going to fashion the MHA after the IMCA and make it an invitation only organization, where I live I have very little or no chance of meeting or getting acquainted with anyone (short of online) that would even offer to take me under his or her wing and get me started in meteoritic or the MHA.

Thanks;

Markus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point very well taken on the IMCA and yes the members of the IMCA have paid their dues. The interesting thing is that in your original statement you point out that there needs to be an organization (MHA) that promotes that ethical collection of meteorites and specimens so the scientific community will respect the members of the MHA so that they don’t lobby against the private collection of meteorites.</p>
<p>You state and I quote that “It’s to help build and create a group that can help preserve the rights of meteorite hunters (the public) to hunt federal land while at the same time help newbies learn how to recover meteorites and preserve their data. Without an organized group to do that people will see the Meteorite Men show, or read about it online and go out hunting and either get in trouble, or destroy vital data.”  </p>
<p>This is a noble cause and something that I thought I would like to be a part of but where if not in the MHA is a Newbie Nobody from Nowhere like myself to learn and that is my point. If you model yourself after these noble invitation only organizations then why do you need to start a new group just stay with these groups that work. Why don’t you just make the changes to these organizations that you have motioned in your comments above.</p>
<p>I thought your interest in starting a new organization was to promote the ethical private collection of meteorites and use it as more or less a teaching tool, because of the overwhelming new interest from the general public form the viewing of such shows as The Meteorite Men. Correct me if I’m wrong, I thought your interest was to educate this new bread of hunter on how to preserve data so that it would not be lost, provide them with the tools so to speak even go so far as to provide newbies like myself with a starter kit (shirt, jewelers loupe and rare earth magnets). </p>
<p>My question is why go to this much trouble if you are going to fashion the MHA after the IMCA and make it an invitation only organization, where I live I have very little or no chance of meeting or getting acquainted with anyone (short of online) that would even offer to take me under his or her wing and get me started in meteoritic or the MHA.</p>
<p>Thanks;</p>
<p>Markus</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael Navarro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rafael Navarro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 03:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;OPERATION LUNAR ECLIPSE&quot;
In all human societies, those is in power always try by all means at its disposal,to drive the opinion of ordinary people,neglecting the ethical and moral principles;the only thing that matters is staying in power.- But , Nasa forgot that &quot;No one can fool all persons, all the time&quot; and
&quot;The truth will shine above all the lies.&quot;(Gandhi)

I downloaded from the Internet a copy of &quot;Interview With Robert Pearlman, Alan Rosen&quot; by FREDRICKA WHITFIELD.Aired July 13,2002-12:35 ET says: &quot; THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.&quot; (Maybe it can be updated now.)

Well, actually the really important news was behind that fact,the real reason for which NASA launched &quot;Operation Lunar Eclipse.&quot;
As you can realize now in light of the facts ; the true intention of NASA was recover (without to make noise ) some of the samples of moon rocks from the Apollo 11 mission that gift in 1969 without having been classified or studied.

Because instead of humbly acknowledge this error, decided to hide it by creating disinformation and demonizing those who for some reason had in their possession a Apollo 11 Moon-rock,with the hope that these rocks  which showing the error , disappear.


The &quot;Operation Lunar Eclipse&quot; was a failure, but NASA published it as a &quot;success&quot;.-They had to create a spectacle to distract attention from the real reason. Using for this purpose at Robert Pearlman and elevating the status of &quot;Hero&quot; to J. Gutheimz.
Unfortunately, people who chose to lie, to try to hide the errors,are still at NASA and when mistakes are more big, still choose deception.

After the news about the Lunar Rock Holland, AP issued the following official statement:

&quot;NASA turned over the samples to the State Department to distribute,&quot; said Jennifer Ross-Nazzal, a NASA historian, in an e-mailed response to questions. &quot;We don&#039;t have any records about when and to whom the rocks were given.&quot;

&quot;The Office of the Historian does not keep records of what became of the moon rocks, and to my knowledge, there is no one entity that does so,&quot; emailed Tiffany Hamelin, the State Department historian.
I fear for the future of Jennifer Ross-Nazzal and Tiffany Hamelin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;OPERATION LUNAR ECLIPSE&#8221;<br />
In all human societies, those is in power always try by all means at its disposal,to drive the opinion of ordinary people,neglecting the ethical and moral principles;the only thing that matters is staying in power.- But , Nasa forgot that &#8220;No one can fool all persons, all the time&#8221; and<br />
&#8220;The truth will shine above all the lies.&#8221;(Gandhi)</p>
<p>I downloaded from the Internet a copy of &#8220;Interview With Robert Pearlman, Alan Rosen&#8221; by FREDRICKA WHITFIELD.Aired July 13,2002-12:35 ET says: &#8221; THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.&#8221; (Maybe it can be updated now.)</p>
<p>Well, actually the really important news was behind that fact,the real reason for which NASA launched &#8220;Operation Lunar Eclipse.&#8221;<br />
As you can realize now in light of the facts ; the true intention of NASA was recover (without to make noise ) some of the samples of moon rocks from the Apollo 11 mission that gift in 1969 without having been classified or studied.</p>
<p>Because instead of humbly acknowledge this error, decided to hide it by creating disinformation and demonizing those who for some reason had in their possession a Apollo 11 Moon-rock,with the hope that these rocks  which showing the error , disappear.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Operation Lunar Eclipse&#8221; was a failure, but NASA published it as a &#8220;success&#8221;.-They had to create a spectacle to distract attention from the real reason. Using for this purpose at Robert Pearlman and elevating the status of &#8220;Hero&#8221; to J. Gutheimz.<br />
Unfortunately, people who chose to lie, to try to hide the errors,are still at NASA and when mistakes are more big, still choose deception.</p>
<p>After the news about the Lunar Rock Holland, AP issued the following official statement:</p>
<p>&#8220;NASA turned over the samples to the State Department to distribute,&#8221; said Jennifer Ross-Nazzal, a NASA historian, in an e-mailed response to questions. &#8220;We don&#8217;t have any records about when and to whom the rocks were given.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The Office of the Historian does not keep records of what became of the moon rocks, and to my knowledge, there is no one entity that does so,&#8221; emailed Tiffany Hamelin, the State Department historian.<br />
I fear for the future of Jennifer Ross-Nazzal and Tiffany Hamelin.</p>
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		<title>By: Hosts of &#8220;Meteorite Men&#8221; to visit gallery &#124; Host Rage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hosts of &#8220;Meteorite Men&#8221; to visit gallery &#124; Host Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 05:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Meteorite Hunting Association &#124; Meteorites USA [...]</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Meteoritical Societies Meteoritical Bulletin database has this information, and this is the information that hunters and scientists gather.

The MHA is an organization for the education of the public about meteorites, their recovery and science. Members of the MHA are meteorite hunters and scientists who recover meteorites in the field and the MHA has no plans to create a &quot;database&quot; for meteorite data when one already exists. Data collected by MHA members will be shared with proper channels on a individual basis.

Regards.
Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Meteoritical Societies Meteoritical Bulletin database has this information, and this is the information that hunters and scientists gather.</p>
<p>The MHA is an organization for the education of the public about meteorites, their recovery and science. Members of the MHA are meteorite hunters and scientists who recover meteorites in the field and the MHA has no plans to create a &#8220;database&#8221; for meteorite data when one already exists. Data collected by MHA members will be shared with proper channels on a individual basis.</p>
<p>Regards.<br />
Eric</p>
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		<title>By: meteorite photos</title>
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		<dc:creator>meteorite photos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not be published) (required) Website. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. Cat&#169;gories ...Meteorite Hunting Association &#124; Meteorites USAJoin the Meteorite Hunters Association The people for the ethical treatment of meteorites. PETM? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not be published) (required) Website. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. Cat&copy;gories &#8230;Meteorite Hunting Association | Meteorites USAJoin the Meteorite Hunters Association The people for the ethical treatment of meteorites. PETM? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another project to think about would a database of meteorites recovered by members. This could include location, date of discovery, composition, photos, etc. This database would then be made available to academic researchers with the possibility of having the items loaned to academic institutions for research. 

This might help ease the tension between the hunter community and the research community, and make it easier for us to lobby for increased availability of public lands for meteorite hunting.

Just a thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another project to think about would a database of meteorites recovered by members. This could include location, date of discovery, composition, photos, etc. This database would then be made available to academic researchers with the possibility of having the items loaned to academic institutions for research. </p>
<p>This might help ease the tension between the hunter community and the research community, and make it easier for us to lobby for increased availability of public lands for meteorite hunting.</p>
<p>Just a thought&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree about the value of an organization is directly related to being able to create enthusiasm for an area of interest and provide the tools and education needs for that enthusiasm to become contagious. It&#039;s also about inspiring people to get involved, to help build something bigger than themselves and to educate the public. Information is scattered about right now, and you have to weed through a lot of websites to get at the good information.

Learning about meteorites, and meteorite hunting from members of the MHA will help provide a vehicle for the advancement of the science, will provide education to the public, and an organized voice for the meteorite hunting community.   Until the MHA there hasn&#039;t yet been a single group or organization willing and able to do this and help people learn about meteorite hunting in this way. The MHA will provide that.

We&#039;re moving forward. The first thing we need as a group is interest, and I think given the popularity of this thread, and others like it concerning the MHA, the positive feedback I&#039;ve received is a good sign that we&#039;re on the right track.

Now lets get busy with it! ;)

Regards,
Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about the value of an organization is directly related to being able to create enthusiasm for an area of interest and provide the tools and education needs for that enthusiasm to become contagious. It&#8217;s also about inspiring people to get involved, to help build something bigger than themselves and to educate the public. Information is scattered about right now, and you have to weed through a lot of websites to get at the good information.</p>
<p>Learning about meteorites, and meteorite hunting from members of the MHA will help provide a vehicle for the advancement of the science, will provide education to the public, and an organized voice for the meteorite hunting community.   Until the MHA there hasn&#8217;t yet been a single group or organization willing and able to do this and help people learn about meteorite hunting in this way. The MHA will provide that.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re moving forward. The first thing we need as a group is interest, and I think given the popularity of this thread, and others like it concerning the MHA, the positive feedback I&#8217;ve received is a good sign that we&#8217;re on the right track.</p>
<p>Now lets get busy with it! <img src='http://www.meteoritesusa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Eric</p>
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